I have a dilemma, I just took possession of a Radom Vis 35 P35(p) according to the description; take down latch, decocker, slot for extended stock, it has the waffenamps marking, WaA77. This tells me it is a Grade I (type I) first series of Radom made during the German occupation 1939-1940. So the serial number should be Axxxx to Dxxxx.
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An estimated 313,000 P.359(p) pistols were made for the German Army during 1939-1945; based on the serial number, this pistol was made in 1942. Principal markings: “J0786” - serial number; “F.B. 15567” - manufacturer and model; “P.35(p)” - model; eagle over “WaA77” – German military acceptance. 15567: Finish: military-finish; blued. Grips: redish-brown chequered Bakelit grips. On left side FB logo. On right side VIS logo: Serial number: 4-digit number with prefix on right frame. 4-digit number with prefix inside slide. 3-digit number on barrel. Acceptance stamp: E/77 left on slide. E/77 left on frame. 15567 'P.35(p)' Finish: military-finish; blued. Grips: black chequered Bakelit grips. On left side FB logo. On right side VIS logo. Serial number: 4-digit number with prefix on right frame. 4-digit number with prefix inside slide. 3-digit number on barrel. Acceptance stamp: E/77 left on slide. E/77 left on frame. Polish Radon Vis 35 9mm Calibre: 9mm Date: Circa 1939-1941 Serial No: 8073 Price: £1,295.
Make: F.B. Radom, Polish
Model: Model 1939 VIS-35
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Serial Number: 34883
Year of Manufacture: 1936-1939
Caliber: 9mm
Action Type: Single Action Semi Auto with Removable Magazine
Markings: There are a number of light proof marks on the right side of the trigger guard and trigger. The right side of the frame is marked “34883”. The left side of the slide is marked “F. B. Radom / 1939” / Polish Eagle / “Vis WZ. 35 / pat. Nr. 15567”. There is a “D / 2” in an oval on the left trigger guard bow and another proof mark on the left side of the slide at the safety. There are characters and “34883” on the underside of the slide. “882” is on the left side of the barrel lug. There is an “E” is the stock slot cut-out.
Barrel Length: 4 ½”
Sights / Optics: The front sight is part of the rib. The rear sight is a dovetail set notch.
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Stock Configuration & Condition: The grips are checkered plastic. There is a “FB” on the left panel and a “VIS” on the right. The checkering is very sharp and these panels show no splits or cracks. There is very little wear whatsoever on these panels and the screws even show fire blue. The grips rate in about Excellent overall condition.
Type of Finish: Blue
Finish Originality: Factory Original
Bore Condition: The bore is bright and the rifling is sharp. There is no erosion in the bore.
Overall Condition: This handgun retains about 93% of its metal finish. The only mentionable wear on this pistol is on the right side of the slide. There is edge wear here and scattered surface freckling. There is one more freckle on the right side of the frame. There is some holster wear at the muzzle. The edges are sharp and the surfaces are true, this is a very sharp Radom. The screw heads are only slightly marked. The markings are crisp, except for the proofs on the trigger guard bows. Overall, this handgun rates in about Excellent condition.
Mechanics: The action functions correctly. We did not fire this handgun.
Box, Paperwork & Accessories: An unmarked black military style flap holster and 2 original magazines are included. The leather is very soft and the stitching is sound. The magazines rate in about Excellent condition and the holster in about Very Good.
Our Assessment: This is an early and high quality Radom. Wikipedia: Originally designed by Piotr Wilniewczyc and Jan Skrzypinski in 1930 at the Fabryka Broni (Arms Factory) in Radom under Director Kazimierz Oldakowski, it was adopted in 1935 as the standard handgun of the Polish Army. Considered by many to be one of the finest handguns ever produced, it is highly prized among collectors of firearms. The design was generally based on American firearms inventor John Browning’s Colt M1911A1, operating on the short-recoil principle, with the barrel being cammed down and away from the locking lugs in the slide. Unlike M1911, the barrel was not cammed by a link, but by a ledge of sorts, which contacts a portion of the barrel and forces it down as it is moved rearward with the slide by the recoil force, similarly as in Browning’s FN Hi-Power pistol and Spanish Ruby 0.45 ACP. It differs from M1911A1 also in other details. Its characteristic feature was a triangular grip shape, wider at the bottom, offering good ergonomics and firm grip. On the right side grip cover, the pistol had letters VIS in a triangle, on the left side—FB (for Fabryka Broni—”Arms Factory”) The handgun was prepared in late 1930, and at the beginning of 1931 the first pistols were ready for testing. Initially it was named WiS (an acronym of the Polish designers’ names); later the name was changed to Vis, meaning “force” in Latin, with the wz. abbreviation for wzór (“model”). The tests proved that the handgun was very accurate and stable (due to its size and mass, most stresses are absorbed and not passed on the shooter); while at the same time remaining reliable after firing more than 6,000 rounds. The Vis was generally regarded as one of the best military pistols of that period. Production started in the state armory Fabryka Broni in Radom in late 1935, and the following year it was introduced as the standard weapon of Polish infantry and cavalry officers. Successively, other units were to be equipped, and by 1942 all other handguns were scheduled to be withdrawn from service. By mid-1938, it was introduced to the armored and air forces. Before the Invasion of Poland, approximately 49,400 (out of 90,000 ordered) were delivered to the army. There was also a small information series of .45 ACP version, with 7 round magazine, but they were not produced in greater series. A .22 LR variant also existed, but no details are known, and its series was not produced in great numbers. After the Polish defeat in 1939, the Germans took over the Radom Armory and continued production of the Vis under the new name of 9 mm Pistole 645(p), which was for some reason often rendered as P 35(p) (the suffix “p” means “polnische”) (the German pistols of the first series had inscriptions VIS Mod.35 and P.35 (p) on the left side). Up to 1945, between 312,000 and 380,000 were produced and used by the German paratroopers and police.
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Sold For: $3,525
This is a Polish 9mm service pistol manufactured under German occupation during World War II. An estimated 313,000 P.359(p) pistols were made for the German Army during 1939-1945; based on the serial number, this pistol was made in 1942.
Principal markings: “J0786” - serial number ; “F.B. RADOM VIS Mod. 35. Pat. Nr. 15567” - manufacturer and model; “P.35(p)” - model; eagle over “WaA77” – German military acceptance stamp; eagle over “623” – German military acceptance stamp.
Manufacturer: Fabryka Broni, Radom, Poland
Condition: NRA Excellent+; fully functioning; all matching serial numbers. [sk]
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